Arons v. Jutkowitz
Manuel Arons, Individually and as Executor of Phyllis Arons, Deceased, Respondent, v Robert Jutkowitz Et Al., Appellants, Et Al., Defendant; Tanya Webb, Respondent, v New York Methodist Hospital Et Al., Appellants; Annette J. Kish, as Administrator De Bonis Non of the Estate of James J. Jerge, Deceased, Respondent, v David H. Graham, M.D., Et Al., Appellants
Attorneys
POINTS OF COUNSEL, Amabile & Erman, P.C., Staten Island (Flutra Limani of counsel), for Robert Jutkowitz, appellant in the first above-entitled action., Mauro Goldberg & Lilling LLP, Great Neck (Barbara DeCrow Goldberg of counsel), and Vaslas Lepowsky Hauss Danke LLP for Robert Fulop, appellant in the first above-entitled action., Wilson, Elser, Moskowitz, Edelman & Dicker LLP, New York City (Michael J. Gudzy, Timothy J. Sheehan and Richard E. Lerner of counsel), for William Gael and others, appellants in the first above-entitled action., Philip J. Dinhofer, LLC, Rockville Centre (Philip J. Dinhofer of counsel), for respondent in the first above-entitled action., Michael A. Cardozo, Corporation Counsel, New York City (John Hogrogian, Diane Conyers and Suzanne K. Colt of counsel), for New York City Health and Hospitals Corporation, amicus curiae in the first above-entitled action., Aaronson, Rappaport, Feinstein & Deutsch, LLP, New York City (Steven C. Mandell of counsel), for appellants in the second above-entitled action., Oshman & Mirisola, LLP, New York City (David L. Kremen of counsel), for respondent in the second above-entitled action., Mauro Goldberg & Lilling LLP, Great Neck (Barbara DeCrow Goldberg of counsel), and Damon & Morey LLP for appellants in the third above-entitled action., Hamsher & Valentine, Buffalo (Richard P. Valentine of counsel), and Hancock & Estabrook, LLP, Syracuse (Alan J. Pierce of counsel), for respondent in the third above-entitled action., Kramer, Dillof, Livingston & Moore, New York City (Matthew Gaier and Brian Isaac of counsel), for New York State Trial Lawyersâ Association, amicus curiae in the first, second and third above-entitled actions.
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OPINION OF THE COURT
These appeals call upon us to decide whether an attorney may interview an adverse partyâs treating physician privately
I.
A. Arons v Jutkowitz
In Arons, plaintiff husband, individually and as executor of his late wifeâs estate, brought a medical malpractice and wrongful death action against several physicians, other medical professionals and two hospitals. He alleged that two of the physician defendants failed to tell decedent that her MRI revealed hydrocephalus, thus delaying proper medical care for 14 months as her health deteriorated. Decedent, who was hospitalized repeatedly for unavailing treatments in the roughly six months after her diagnosis, lapsed into a coma and died some weeks later.
Once plaintiff filed a note of issue, one of the physician defendants requested HIPAA-compliant authorizations so that his attorneys might seek to interview decedentâs treating physician. Plaintiff refused, prompting defendants to ask Supreme Court for an order pursuant to HIPAA regulations (45 CFR 164.512 [e] [1] [i]; 164.508) âdirecting plaintiff to provide authorizations permitting defense counsel to speak with certain physicians who rendered care to . . . plaintiff related to claims being made in [the] action, if the physicians voluntarily agree to such interviews.â
Supreme Court granted the motion. The court reasoned that by commencing the medical malpractice action, plaintiff put his late wifeâs medical condition into play, thus waiving her physician-patient privilege; that defendants were permitted to interview a plaintiffâs treating physicians, âbut only after the note of issue [had] been filedâ; and, citing several lower court decisions, that âHIPAA regulations require authorizations from the plaintiff in order for the defendants to conduct post-discovery interviews with treating physiciansâ (2005 NY Slip Op 30130[U], *3). Consequently, Supreme Court directed plaintiff to provide authorizations to defense counsel within seven days, subject to several conditions; specifically,
*403 âthe authorization[s] must, on [their] face state in BOLD letters that the purpose of the interview is to assist the defendants in defense of a lawsuit and it is not at the request of the plaintiff. The authorization[s] must contain the name and address of the person to whom the health care provider may give an interview if he or she wishes and must identify the persons or entities the interviewer is representing and must conform in all respects to 45 C.F.R. § 164.508 (c). The authorizations may not be combined with a subpoena and there must be a separate authorization for each interview.
âWithin 72 hours after the interview, the defendant must provide the plaintiff with any and all written statements, materials or notations and any document obtained from the interviewed health care provider, as well as copies of any memoranda, notes, audio or video recordings of any oral statements made by the health care provider. The defendantâs counsel need not disclose their conclusions, impressions or analysis of any of the statements.â (Id.)
Plaintiff appealed, and the Appellate Division, Second Department, reversed. The court opined that although plaintiff had waived the physician-patient privilege by bringing the lawsuit, defendants were entitled only to disclosure via the discovery devices enumerated in CPLR article 31 and the Uniform Rules for the New York State Trial Courts, which do not mention ex parte interviews, or mandate that a plaintiff execute authorizations permitting them. Further, â[i]n the absence ofâ explicit authority in article 31 or the Uniform Rules or plaintiffs consent, defense counsel had long been prohibited from privately interviewing a plaintiffs treating physicians during discovery, a âlimit[ ] on disclosure . . . imposed not because of the physician-patient privilege, which is generally waived by bringing a malpractice action, but by the very design of the specific disclosure devices available in CPLR article 31â (Arons v Jutkowitz, 37 AD3d 94, 97 [2d Dept 2006] [internal quotation marks omitted]).
Next, the court conceded that while it had previously decided that a treating physicianâs testimony could not be precluded at trial on the basis of ex parte interviews conducted after the filing of the note of issue, those decisions neither âdeclare[d] that defense counsel [had] a right to such informal, post-note of is
Finally, the court remarked that after the filing of a note of issue, an order for additional pretrial discovery called for the requesting party to demonstrate âunusual or unanticipated circumstancesâ (id. at 100, quoting 22 NYCRR 202.21 [d]); and that, in this case, the note of issue had been filed before HIPAAâs privacy regulations became effective. â[I]n light of the unsettled nature of the law prior to [its] decision,â the Appellate Division therefore modified Supreme Courtâs order by âdeny[ing] . . . defendantsâ motion with leave to move pursuant to 22 NYCRR 202.21 (d) for permission to conduct additional pretrial discovery relating to . . . decedentâs treating physicians as limited by article 31â (id. at 101 [emphasis added]). The Appellate Division subsequently granted defendantsâ motion for leave to appeal, asking us whether its opinion and order were properly made.
B. Webb v New York Methodist Hospital
In this medical malpractice action, plaintiff alleged that she suffered constant nausea, intractable vomiting and malnutrition as a result of a botched gastric stapling operation. Plaintiff, who weighed 450 pounds at the time of her surgery, lost 200 pounds afterwards.
Once the note of issue was filed, defendant physician and defendant hospital sought HIPAA-compliant authorizations for ex parte interviews with the gastroenterologist who treated plaintiff after her weight-loss operation, and the surgeon who operated on her to reverse the procedure. When plaintiff refused to supply authorizations, defendants moved to compel her to do so.
Supreme Court granted the motion and directed plaintiff to furnish authorizations for the interviews, subject to conditions that he had worked out in earlier litigation where the same issue had arisen. As was the case in Arons, these conditions included a direction for defense counsel to hand over to his adversary copies of all written statements and notations obtained from the physicians during the private interviews, as well as any audio or video recordings or transcripts, and interview
The Appellate Division, Second Department, reversed Supreme Courtâs order for the reasons stated in Arons, and denied defendantsâ motions âwithout prejudice to making a motion in Supreme Court . . . pursuant to 22 NYCRR 202.21 (d) for permission to conduct additional pretrial discovery relating toâ plaintiffâs treatment by the treating physicians (Webb v New York Methodist Hosp., 35 AD3d 457, 457-458 [2d Dept 2006]). The Appellate Division subsequently granted defendantsâ motion for leave to appeal, asking us whether its decision and order were properly made.
C. Kish v Graham
In Kish, plaintiff, as administrator of decedentâs estate, alleged that defendant physicians did not properly diagnose and treat decedent for perineal necrotizing fasciitis, resulting in his death. After discovery was complete, defendants served plaintiff with a demand for HIPAA-compliant authorizations permitting defense counsel to interview decedentâs treating physicians. When plaintiff refused to sign the authorizations, defendants moved to compel her to do so or, alternatively, to prohibit her from offering these physiciansâ records at trial, or speaking with them before trial.
Supreme Court granted the motion and directed plaintiff to provide the authorizations, subject to the following conditions:
â(a) With respect to any of the subsequent treating physicians which defense counsel seeks to interview in private, defense counsel shall serve a trial subpoena upon such physician prior to, or contemporaneously with, defense counselâs delivery to the physician of the executed HIPAA-compliant authorization by plaintiff. . . ;
â(b) Such authorization shall be limited by the same temporal and subject matter limitations, if any, as on the plaintiffâs pre-note of issue authorization providing the defendants with access to records of the subsequent treating physician, it being the intention of the Court not to require or allow such physician to provide defense counsel with additional records;
â(c) The authorization shall be accompanied by a*406 cover letter from defense counsel to the subsequent treating physician stating:
â(1) While the subpoena requires such physicianâs testimony at trial, the physician is not obligated to speak with defense counsel prior to trial;
â(2) The purpose of the requested interview with the physician is solely to assist defense counsel at trial;
â(3) If the physician grants the requested interview with defense counsel, a copy of such physicianâs records, if any, previously provided to defense counsel will be available to assist the physician during the interview;
â(4) The physician is not required to provide defense counsel with any written material or records prior to trial; and
â(d) Provided that defense counsel complies with the conditions prescribed in this Order, no notice of the date or time of the interview need be given to plaintiffs counsel.â
The Appellate Division, Fourth Department, reversed on the basis of Arons, with two Justices dissenting. The court subsequently granted defendantsâ motion for leave to appeal, asking us whether its order was properly made.
II.
A. Informal Discovery of Nonparty Treating Physicians
We have written before about the importance of informal discovery practices in litigationâin particular, private interviews of fact witnesses. In Niesig v Team I (76 NY2d 363 [1990]), the plaintiff in a personal injury action under Labor Law § 240 moved for permission for his counsel to conduct ex parte interviews of the corporate defendantâs employees who were on the job site at the time of his accident. The particular question put to us was whether these employees were considered âpartiesâ under Code of Professional Responsibility DR 7-104 (a) (1) (22 NYCRR 1200.35 [a] [1]), which prohibits an attorney from communicating directly with a âpartyâ known to have counsel in the matter.
The trial court denied the plaintiffs request; the Appellate Division modified by limiting the ban on ex parte interviews to
We pointed out that the Appellate Divisionâs blanket ban was undesirable because it would
âclose[ ] off avenues of informal discovery of information that [might] serve both the litigants and the entire justice system by uncovering relevant facts, thus promoting the expeditious resolution of disputes. Foreclosing all direct, informal interviews of employees of the corporate party unnecessarily sacrifices the long-recognized potential value of such sessions. . . . Costly formal depositions that may deter litigants with limited resources, or even somewhat less formal and costly interviews attended by adversary counsel, are no substitute for such off-the-record private efforts to learn and assemble, rather than perpetuate, informationâ (76 NY2d at 372).
While the Appellate Divisionâs blanket ban was easy to understand and apply, we concluded that the many benefits of informal discovery ârequire[d] that an effort be madeâ to create a workable, narrower test (id. at 373). Accordingly, we restricted the ban on private interviews to those âcorporate employees whose acts or omissions in the matter under inquiry are binding on the corporation ... or imputed to the corporation for purposes of its liability, or employees implementing the advice of counselâ (Niesig, 76 NY2d at 374). In response to defendantsâ âassertions that ex parte interviews should not be permitted because of the dangers of overreaching,â we added the âcautionary noteâ that âit is of course assumed that attorneys would make their identity and interest known to interviewees and comport themselves ethicallyâ (id. at 376).
Earlier this year, we had occasion to revisit Niesig when we decided Muriel Siebert & Co., Inc. v Intuit Inc. (8 NY3d 506
Before commencing the interview, Intuitâs lawyers cautioned the executive not to reveal privileged or confidential matter, specifically including any conversations with Siebertâs attorneys, or information about Siebertâs litigation strategy. He was further advised that if he was asked a question that might threaten such disclosures, he should decline to answer for that reason. The executive stated that he understood the admonitions; the record did not indicate that any privileged information had, in fact, been disclosed.
Upon learning about the interview, Siebert moved to disqualify Intuitâs attorneys from the case, enjoin them from using any information provided by the executive, and stay his deposition. Supreme Court granted the motion, holding that the disqualification was warranted regardless of whether Intuit actually received any privileged information. Recognizing that DR 7-104 (a) (1) could not apply to a former corporate employee, the trial court grounded its decision on the â âappearance of improprietyâ based upon the possibility that privileged information had been disclosed during the interviewâ (id. at 510). Citing Niesig, the Appellate Division reversed, and subsequently granted Siebertâs motion for leave to appeal, asking us whether its order was properly made.
First, we noted that in Niesig we had âmade clearâ that there was no across-the-board ban on ex parte communications with an adversaryâs current employees (id. at 511). As a result, opposing counsel were afforded âthe opportunity to unearth relevant facts through informal discovery devices, like ex parte interviews, that have the potential to streamline discovery and foster the prompt resolution of claimsâ (id.). For the same âpolicy reasons articulated in Niesig concerning the importance of informal discovery,â we held that âso long as measures are taken to steer clear of privileged or confidential information, adversary counsel may conduct ex parte interviews of an opposing partyâs former employeeâ (id.). Since the record indicated that protective steps had been taken and adhered to, we affirmed the
We see no reason why a nonparty treating physician should be less available for an off-the-record interview than the corporate employees in Niesig or the former corporate executive in Siebert. As an initial matter, a litigant is âdeemed to have waived the [physician-patient] privilege when, in bringing or defending a personal injury action, that person has affirmatively placed his or her mental or physical condition in issueâ (Dillenbeck v Hess, 73 NY2d 278, 287 [1989], citing Koump v Smith, 25 NY2d 287, 294 [1969]; see also Hoenig v Westphal, 52 NY2d 605 [1981] [physician-patient privilege waived by commencement of personal injury lawsuit]). This waiver is called for as a matter of basic fairness: â[A] party should not be permitted to affirmatively assert a medical condition in seeking damages or in defending against liability while simultaneously relying on the confidential physician-patient relationship as a sword to thwart the opposition in its efforts to uncover facts critical to disputing the partyâs claimâ (Dillenbeck at 287).
Plaintiffs counter that informal interviews of treating physicians are nonetheless impermissible because article 31 of the CPLR and part 202 of the Uniform Rules do not identify them as a disclosure tool. But there are no statutes and no rules expressly authorizingâor forbiddingâex parte discussions with any nonparty, including the corporate employees in Niesig and the former corporate executive in Siebert.
Again, we âassume[ ] that attorneys would make their identity and interest known to interviewees and comport themselves ethicallyâ (Niesig, 76 NY2d at 376). In Siebert, where the executive was privy to information for which the attorney-client privilege had not been waived, we considered the risk of improper disclosure adequately addressed where the attorney conducting the interview prefaced his questioning with admonitions designed to prevent this from happening, and there was no reason to believe that privileged information had, in fact, been disclosed. Here, the danger that the questioning might encroach upon privileged matter is surely no greater than was the case in Siebert since the subject matter of the interview or discussionâa patientâs contested medical conditionâwill be readily definable and understood by a physician or other health care professional. In sum, an attorney who approaches a nonparty treating physician (or other health care professional) must simply reveal the clientâs identity and interest, and make clear that any discussion with counsel is entirely voluntary and limited in scope to the particular medical condition at issue in the litigation.
Finally, we understand that, in fact, for many years trial attorneys in New York have engaged in the practice of interviewing an adverse partyâs treating physicians ex parte, particularly in malpractice actions, although only after a note of issue was filed (see Anker v Brodnitz, 98 Misc 2d 148 [1979], affd on op below 73 AD2d 589 [2d Dept 1979], lv dismissed 51 NY2d 703, 743 [1980]; see also Vogel v Jewish Hosp. & Med. Ctr. of Brooklyn, 73 AD2d 601 [2d Dept 1979]; Brevetti v Roth, 114 AD2d 877 [2d Dept 1985]; Stoller v Moo Young Jun, 118 AD2d 637 [2d Dept 1986]; Reid v Health Ins. Plan of Greater N.Y., 80 AD2d 830 [2d Dept 1981]; Breen v Leonard Hosp., 82 AD2d 1000 [3d Dept 1981]; Feretich v Parsons Hosp., 88 AD2d 903 [2d Dept 1982]; Zimmerman v Jamaica Hosp., 143 AD2d 86 [2d Dept 1988]; Levande v Dines, 153 AD2d 671 [2d Dept 1989]; Tiborsky v Martorella, 188 AD2d 795 [3d Dept 1992]; Fraylich v
We mention this long-standing practice for several reasons. First, the prohibition of interviews in lieu of article 31 discovery devices originated in the trial courtâs decision in Anker, a medical malpractice action handed down beforeâand at decided odds with our reasoning inâDillenbeck, Hoenig, Niesig and Siebert. Second, it bears emphasizing that the filing of a note of issue denotes the completion of discovery, not the occasion to launch another phase of it. While interviews may still take place post-note of issue, at that juncture in the litigation there is no longer any basis for judicial intervention to allow further pretrial proceedings absent âunusual or unanticipated circumstancesâ and âsubstantial prejudiceâ (22 NYCRR 202.21 [d]). As a result, if a treating physician refuses to talk with an attorney and the note of issue has already been filed, it would normally be too late to seek the physicianâs deposition or interrogatories as an alternative. Finally, as one commentator put it and as these appeals illustrate, the prevailing âstate of affairsâ in New York was thrown into considerable confusion âwhen the 800-pound gorilla, also known as HIPAA . . . entered the arenaâ (Connors, supra). We now turn our attention to this statute.
B. The Impact of HIPAA on Informal Discovery of Health Care Professionals
Congress enacted HIPAA principally to increase the portability and continuity of health insurance and to simplify administrative procedures so as to reduce health care costs (see
When Congress did not meet its self-imposed deadline, HHS proposed and subsequently adopted a Privacy Rule (see 45 CFR parts 160, 164; see also South Carolina Med. Assn. v Thompson, 327 F3d 346 [4th Cir 2003] [discussing HIPAA and rejecting claims that Congress impermissibly delegated its legislative function to HHS]). When devising the Privacy Rule, HHS sought to âstrike[ ] a balance that permits important uses of information, while protecting the privacy of people who seek care and healingâ; and to fashion a scheme sufficiently âflexible and comprehensive to cover the variety of uses and disclosures that need to be addressedâ (United States Department of Health and Human Services, Office for Civil Rights, Summary of the HIPAA Privacy Rule, at 1, available at http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/ privacysummary.pdf [last revised May 2003]).
The Privacy Rule forbids an organization subject to its requirements (a âcovered entityâ) from using or disclosing an individualâs health information (âprotected health informationâ) except as mandated or permitted by its provisions (45
The Privacy Rule mandates disclosure in only two situations: when an individual asks a covered entity for his or her own health information, or when the Secretary of HHS asks a covered entity for access to such information in order to enforce HIPAA (45 CFR 164.502 [a] [2]).
The Privacy Rule generally provides that a covered entity may not use or disclose an individualâs protected health information to third parties without a valid authorization, except as otherwise permitted or mandated under the Rule (45 CFR 164.508 [a]). An authorization must be written in
The Privacy Rule also permits covered entities to use or disclose protected health information without authorization pursuant to a court or administrative order so long as only the protected health information covered by the order is disclosed (45 CFR 164.512 [e] [1] [i]); or in response to a subpoena, discovery request or other lawful process if the entity has received satisfactory assurances that the party seeking the disclosure has made reasonable efforts to ensure that the individual has been given notice of the request, or has made reasonable efforts to secure a qualified protective order from a court or administrative tribunal (45 CFR 164.512 [e] [1] [ii]). While this litigation exception may appear to be tailored for those situations in which the protected health information is not being sought from a party to the proceedings, HHS has declared that â[t]he provisions in [section 164.512 (e)] are not intended to disrupt current practice whereby an individual who is a party to a proceeding and has put his or her medical condition at issue will not prevail without consenting to the production of his or her protected health informationâ (65 Fed Reg 82462, 82530).
Next, the Privacy Rule sets out a floor of federal privacy protections whereby state laws that are âcontraryâ to the Privacy Rule are preempted unless a specific exception applies. A state law is âcontraryâ to the Privacy Rule, however, only if it would be impossible for a covered entity to comply with both the state requirement and the Rule, or the former is an obstacle to accomplishing the full purposes and objectives of HIPAAâs âadministrative simplificationâ provisions (45 CFR 160.202). Moreover, if a state law mandates a disclosure, the Privacy Rule permits the disclosure under its ârequired by lawâ exception, which generally allows a covered entity to disclose protected health information without authorization where disclosure is compelled by another law (45 CFR 164.512 [a]). As one commentator has explained, the
In addition, HHS has pointedly advised that where âthere is a State provision and no comparable or analogous federal provision, or the converse is the case,â there is no possibility of preemption because in the absence of anything to compare âthere cannot be ... a âcontraryâ requirementâ and so âthe stand-alone requirementâbe it State or federalâis effectiveâ (64 Fed Reg 59918, 59995). As a result, there can be no conflict between New York law and HIPAA on the subject of ex parte interviews of treating physicians because HIPAA does not address this subject. Accordingly, the Privacy Rule does not prevent this informal discovery from going forward, it merely superimposes procedural prerequisites. As a practical matter, this means that the attorney who wishes to contact an adverse partyâs treating physician must first obtain a valid HIPAA authorization or a court or administrative order; or must issue a subpoena, discovery request or other lawful process with satisfactory assurances relating to either notification or a qualified protective order.
In the appeals now before us, defendants forwarded to plaintiffs HIPAA-compliant authorizations permitting their treating physicians to discuss the medical condition at issue in the litigation with defense counsel. After plaintiffs declined to sign these authorizations, defendants asked the trial courts for orders compelling them to do so, and the courts granted these requests. This was entirely proper. Plaintiffs waived the physician-patient privilege as to this information when they brought suit, so there was no basis for their refusal to furnish the requested HIPAA-compliant authorizations.
Finally, the trial court orders in Arons and Webb included stipulations not required by HIPAA and inconsistent with Niesig and Siebertâspecifically, a direction for defense counsel to hand over to his adversary copies of all written statements and notations obtained from the physician during the private interviews, any audio or video recordings or transcripts, and interview memoranda or notes (excluding the attorneysâ observations, impressions or analyses). Imposition of these conditions was improper.
Accordingly, the orders of the Appellate Division should be reversed, with costs, and defendantsâ motions to compel plaintiffs to provide the subject authorizations granted in accordance with this opinion. The certified questions should be answered in the negative.
. The dissentâs emphasis on the Legislatureâs silence with respect to authorizations of informal ex parte interviews (dissenting op at 417-418) is, thus, unavailing. Our decisions plainly permit informal discovery, and the Legislature has not directed to the contrary. Absent such legislative direction, we decline to limit the scope of such discovery here.
. HHS issued its proposed Privacy Rule in November 1999 (see 64 Fed Reg 59918 [Nov. 3, 1999]), and the final Privacy Rule in December 2000 (see 65 Fed Reg 82462 [Dec. 28, 2000]). The proposed rule and its explanatory text fill over 150 pages of the Federal Register; in just under 350 pages, HHS in the final rule reviewed the changes made to its original proposal, which provoked an astounding 52,000 public comments (see 67 Fed Reg 53182 [Aug. 14, 2002]). While the Privacy Rule was modified in 2002, none of the revisions are relevant to these appeals.
. HHSâs Office for Civil Rights (OCR) is responsible for enforcing the Privacy Rule. OCR carries out this responsibility by investigating complaints against covered entities, conducting compliance reviews and performing education and outreach to foster compliance (see generally 45 CFR part 160, subparts C, D, E).
. Of course, the physician is not entirely free in this regard because some other law might compel the informationâs release.
. The dissent reasons that defendantsâ requests for court orders compelling plaintiffs to execute HIPAA-compliant authorizations âtake[ ] the matter out of the realm of informal discoveryâ (dissenting op at 418). But this concern is tempered by the fact that plaintiffs now know that they cannot legitimately refuse to sign these HIPAA-compliant authorizations. Accordingly, there should be no need for future judicial intervention to require them to do so.
. We take no issue with those portions of the Arons and Kish orders that required defense counsel to identify themselves and their interest, to limit their inquiries to the condition at issue, and to advise physicians that they need not comply with the request for an interview (see supra at 410). We believe that the execution of a valid authorization and the fact that the physician, under HIPAA, is permitted, but not required, to grant the interview will address these concerns in the future.