Randy Talley v. Carl Gloede
CourtCourt of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit
Date FiledAugust 28, 2026
Docket25-1264
JudgeRovner
StatusPublished
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In the
United States Court of Appeals
For the Seventh Circuit
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No. 25-1264
RANDY TALLEY,
Plaintiff-Appellant,
v.
CARL GLOEDE and DANE COUNTY, WISCONSIN,
Defendants-Appellees.
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Appeal from the United States District Court for the
Western District of Wisconsin.
No. 23-cv-00693-jdp — James D. Peterson, Chief Judge.
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ARGUED OCTOBER 27, 2025 — DECIDED AUGUST 28, 2026
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Before EASTERBROOK, ROVNER, and SCUDDER, Circuit
Judges.
ROVNER, Circuit Judge. While at the Dane County Jail on a
probation hold, Randy Talley was assaulted by another in-
mate. He filed suit under 42 U.S.C. § 1983, alleging that dep-
uty officer Carl Gloede and the Dane County Jail were liable
for failing to protect him. The district court granted summary
judgment in favor of the defendants, and on appeal Talley
challenges only summary judgment as to Gloede.
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We begin with the undisputed facts as set forth by the dis-
trict court, which the parties on appeal do not challenge. The
assault that forms the basis for this § 1983 action occurred at
the Dane County jail, where Talley was incarcerated on a pro-
bation hold. Talley was housed in Cellblock 607, which con-
sisted of eight private cells and a shared dayroom. The inci-
dent occurred on the morning of October 18, 2020, and Jerome
Wheeler, the inmate who assaulted Talley, had first moved
into Cellblock 607 only a few hours earlier. There was no his-
tory of conflict, or even contact, between Talley and Wheeler
prior to that morning.
On that morning, Talley was sitting in the dayroom look-
ing at a tablet used by inmates, and Wheeler entered and ac-
cused Talley of stealing money from his tablet account.
Wheeler and Talley began arguing, although Talley does not
remember what was said. At one point, Wheeler took a swing
at Talley but did not make contact with him. Wheeler and Tal-
ley eventually walked away from each other in the dayroom,
each moving to opposite sides of a large table, but continued
to engage with one another. After arguing for a few minutes,
Talley walked to the window that looked into the hallway and
called for an officer. Officer Carl Gloede, one of two deputies
on duty in Cellblock 607 that morning, responded and found
Talley at the window and Wheeler standing between the in-
ner and outer doors. Both were trying to speak to him at the
same time, with Wheeler accusing Talley of theft and Talley
stating that Wheeler was crazy and had taken a swing at him.
Talley acknowledges that he was not arguing in that moment,
but simply explaining himself. He further states that Gloede
went to the window to speak to him and then to the other
window to speak with Wheeler, and described the interac-
tions as all of them just talking. Gloede decided to have both
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Talley and Wheeler lock themselves down in their individual
cells until after breakfast, when he would have more time to
investigate their complaints. He ordered them to return to
their cells and lock the cell doors, and Talley proceeded to his
cell with Wheeler following behind him. Talley entered his
cell first and Gloede then saw Wheeler jump back from Tal-
ley’s cell entrance and assume a fighting posture, and then
lunge into Talley’s cell, attacking Talley. Gloede immediately
called for backup and waited for it to arrive before proceeding
into Talley’s cell to assist him. Within about 44 seconds,
backup had arrived and deputies had entered the cellblock
and separated Talley and Wheeler. Talley suffered serious in-
juries to his face and eye as a result of the assault.
Talley argues that Gloede violated his constitutional rights
by failing to protect him from Wheeler’s assault. The parties
recognize that it remains unsettled in our circuit whether fail-
ure-to-protect claims brought by inmates on a probation hold
are governed by the Eighth or the Fourteenth Amendment,
and agreed to apply the Fourteenth Amendment standard ap-
plicable to pretrial detainees. See Christensen v. Weiss, 145 F.4th
743, 751 (7th Cir. 2025). Even under the less onerous Four-
teenth Amendment standard addressed by the parties, the
district court’s grant of summary judgment against Talley
was proper.
In order to demonstrate a claim under the Fourteenth
Amendment for failure to protect, Talley must demonstrate
that: (1) Gloede made an intentional decision regarding the
conditions of Talley’s confinement; (2) those conditions
placed Talley at a substantial risk of serious harm; (3) Gloede
did not take reasonable available measures to abate the risk,
even though a reasonable officer in those circumstances
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would have appreciated the high degree of risk involved,
making the consequences of Gloede’s inaction obvious; and
(4) Gloede’s conduct caused Talley’s injuries. Thomas v. Dart,
39 F.4th 835, 841 (7th Cir. 2022); Kemp v. Fulton Cty., 27 F.4th
491, 496 (7th Cir. 2022).
The third element requires an allegation that a
specific defendant “was on notice of a serious
risk of harm” to the detainee. Kemp, 27 F.4th at
497. Put another way, it must be plausibly al-
leged that a reasonable officer in a defendant's
circumstances would have appreciated the high
degree of risk the detainee was facing. Id.
Thomas, 39 F.4th at 841.
The dispositive issue in this appeal is whether the inten-
tional decision instructing Talley and Wheeler to return to
their cells placed Talley at a substantial risk of serious harm,
and specifically whether a reasonable officer in those circum-
stances would have appreciated the high degree of risk in-
volved, making the consequences of Gloede’s decision obvi-
ous. The facts on summary judgment here do not support lia-
bility under the Fourteenth Amendment.
Gloede was faced with a situation involving a loud disa-
greement between two inmates. The only evidence that the
disagreement would turn physical was the statement to
Gloede by Talley that Wheeler had taken a swing at him. Ar-
guments between inmates in a prison environment are not
uncommon, and the only indication here conveyed to Gloede
that the argument could escalate beyond a verbal confronta-
tion was that lone early attempt by Wheeler to take a swing at
Talley. The circumstances presented here would not have
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alerted a reasonable officer that allowing Wheeler and Talley
to walk back to their cells would present a high degree of risk
to Talley of serious harm because there was sparse evidence
of a threat of any imminent physical altercation. There was no
evidence before Gloede that Wheeler followed up that missed
swing with any further attempt to make physical contact with
Talley, and the two men proceeded to present their side of the
story to Gloede with neither one attempting to turn the dis-
pute physical. To establish a Fourteenth Amendment viola-
tion for failure to protect, it is not enough to show there was
some risk of harm; a constitutional violation is established
only by demonstrating a high degree of risk of serious harm.
At the time of the order to return to the cell, Gloede had min-
imal evidence that the dispute, at the point in which Gloede
was involved, could turn physical, and certainly no evidence
that the inmates were on the verge of a physical altercation or
that the situation otherwise presented a “substantial risk” of
serious harm to Talley. Although Wheeler had unimpeded
physical access to Talley the entire time they were out of their
cells, including when the two were speaking with Gloede
through the window, Wheeler did not physically attack Tal-
ley beyond that initial truncated attempt. Here, the only evi-
dence Talley had presented as to Gloede’s awareness of a risk
was that the two were engaged in a verbal dispute which they
brought to Gloede, and that Talley informed Gloede that
Wheeler had taken a swing at him earlier that did not land. A
reasonable officer presented with those circumstances would
not perceive a high degree of risk of serious harm if the two
were instructed to isolate in their own cells until their com-
plaints could be further investigated.
Nor would the actions of the inmates when Gloede or-
dered them to their cell have alerted a reasonable officer to
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such a risk of harm. When instructed to return to their cells
and lock the cell doors, Talley proceeded to his cell with
Wheeler following him. There is no evidence that Talley re-
quested that Wheeler proceed in front of him, nor is there ev-
idence that he expressed misgivings about them walking to
their cells together or that he feared any danger from Wheeler
at that time. Nothing in Talley’s response to the order to head
to their cells, therefore, would have alerted a reasonable of-
ficer to any potential risk of harm, or would indicate that Tal-
ley himself perceived such a risk. The circumstances as
known to Gloede would not cause a reasonable person to
know that there was a substantial risk of serious harm in al-
lowing them to walk to their cells and shut their doors.
The first time that a reasonable officer in Gloede’s situa-
tion would have appreciated a high degree of risk of harm to
Talley was when Wheeler assumed a fighting stance and
lunged at Talley in his cell. Gloede responded immediately to
that threat by calling for backup, and within 44 seconds Talley
and that backup officer were in Talley’s cell terminating the
assault. Talley does not contend that Gloede’s response at that
time was not objectively reasonable.
Because we agree with the district court’s decision on the
merits, we need not address Gloede’s alternative claim of
qualified immunity. The district court properly granted sum-
mary judgment in favor of Gloede, and the decision of the dis-
trict court is AFFIRMED.