United States v. Ramos

Appellate Case: 23-6071     Document: 010110969290       Date Filed: 12/15/2023       Page: 1
                                                                                  FILED
                                                                      United States Court of Appeals
                                       PUBLISH                                Tenth Circuit

                       UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS                       December 15, 2023

                                                                          Christopher M. Wolpert
                              FOR THE TENTH CIRCUIT                           Clerk of Court
                          _________________________________

  UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,

        Plaintiff - Appellee,

  v.                                                          No. 23-6071

  ISAAC MANUEL RAMOS,

        Defendant - Appellant.
                       _________________________________

                      Appeal from the United States District Court
                         for the Western District of Oklahoma
                            (D.C. No. 5:22-CR-00180-JD-1)
                        _________________________________

 Shira Kieval, Assistant Federal Public Defender (Virginia L. Grady, Federal Public
 Defender, with her on the briefs), Denver, Colorado, for Defendant – Appellant.

 Wilson D. McGarry, Assistant United States Attorney (Robert J. Troester, United States
 Attorney, with him on the brief), Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, for Plaintiff – Appellee.
                         _________________________________

 Before BACHARACH, BALDOCK, and MURPHY, Circuit Judges.
                  _________________________________

 MURPHY, Circuit Judge.
                     _________________________________

                                  I. INTRODUCTION

       Frederick Police Department (“FPD”) Officer Jose Puentes arrested Isaac

 Ramos and impounded Ramos’s truck. In anticipation of the truck’s impoundment,

 Puentes conducted an inventory search. That search revealed the presence of a
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 machine gun and ammunition. A federal grand jury issued a two-count indictment

 charging Ramos with unlawful possession of a machine gun, in violation of

 

(o), and being a felon illegally in possession of ammunition, in

 violation of 

(g)(1). Ramos moved to suppress the machine gun and

 ammunition, asserting the impoundment of his truck violated the Fourth Amendment

 because it was not consistent with standardized policy and not supported by a

 reasonable, non-pretextual community-caretaking rationale. After the district court

 denied his motion to suppress, Ramos entered a conditional guilty plea to the

 unlawful-possession-of-a-machine-gun charge. Fed. R. Crim. P. 11(a)(2). On appeal,

 Ramos claims the district court erred in refusing to suppress the machine gun as the

 product of an illegal search, reasserting the arguments he made in the district court.

       This court exercises jurisdiction pursuant to 

 and reverses the

 denial of Ramos’s suppression motion. We need not resolve whether the

 impoundment of Ramos’s truck was consistent with FPD policy. Instead, it is

 sufficient to conclude impoundment was not supported by a reasonable, non-

 pretextual community-caretaking rationale. United States v. Sanders, 

 (10th Cir. 2015) (holding that to be valid under the community-caretaking

 doctrine, an impoundment must be both consistent with standardized policy and

 supported by a valid community-caretaking rationale). The matter is remanded to the

 district court to grant Ramos’s suppression motion and to conduct any further

 necessary proceedings.



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                                  II. BACKGROUND

 A. Legal Background

       The Fourth Amendment protects the “right of the people to be secure in their

 . . . effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures.” U.S. Const. amend. IV.

 Vehicles are effects that fall within the Fourth Amendment’s protection. Coolidge v.

 New Hampshire, 

 (1971) (“The word ‘automobile’ is not a talisman

 in whose presence the Fourth Amendment fades away and disappears.”). “To be

 reasonable, a search generally requires the obtaining of a judicial warrant.” United

 States v. Venezia, 

 (10th Cir. 2021) (quotation omitted). “In the

 absence of a warrant, a search is reasonable only if it falls within a specific exception

 to the warrant requirement.” Riley v. California, 

, 382 (2014). One such

 exception, and the only exception at issue here, is a search conducted pursuant to a

 police officer’s “community-caretaking function.” Venezia, 

. This

 exception allows law enforcement to impound an automobile and, in connection with

 the impoundment, inventory the vehicle’s contents. Sanders, 796 F.3d at 1244–45.

 Such an impoundment, however, must be based on “something other than suspicion

 of evidence of criminal activity,” such as “protecting public safety and promoting the

 efficient movement of traffic.” 

 (quotation omitted); see also United States

 v. Chavez, 

 (10th Cir. 2021) (holding that “public safety lies at

 the heart” of the community-caretaking doctrine). That is, a community-caretaking

 impoundment cannot be based on a suspicion or hope evidence of criminal activity



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 will be found in the vehicle. The government has the burden of proving a vehicle

 impoundment satisfies the Fourth Amendment. Sanders, 

.

       The community-caretaking exception to the Fourth Amendment’s warrant

 requirement operates differently depending on the nature of the property from which

 the vehicle is impounded. When the vehicle is located on public property, specifically

 including streets, roads, and ways, officers have far greater authority to impound. See

 Venezia, 

; see also generally South Dakota v. Opperman, 

 (1976); Cady v. Dombrowski, 

 (1973); United States v. Trujillo, 

 (10th Cir. 2021). When, on the other hand, police impound a car located on

 private property, and that car is neither “obstructing traffic or creating an imminent

 threat to public safety,” a community-caretaking rationale “is less likely to exist.”

 Venezia, 

. In such situations, this court imposes “heightened

 requirements on police.” Sanders, 

. To be consistent with the Fourth

 Amendment, such an impoundment must be “justified by both a standardized policy

 and a reasonable, non-pretextual community-caretaking rationale.” 

.1 A


       1
          This court’s precedents identify these two requirements as Sanders’s first
 (justified by a standardized policy) and second (reasonable, non-pretextual
 community-caretaking rationale) prongs. What makes the requirements for
 impoundment in the private property context “heightened” is Sanders’s first prong.
 See Venezia, 

. Sanders’s second prong, on the other hand, “appl[ies]
 to all community-caretaking impoundments.” 

 (quotation omitted). This is true
 “because protection against unreasonable impoundments, even those conducted
 pursuant to a standardized policy, is part and parcel of the Fourth Amendment’s
 guarantee against unreasonable searches and seizures.” United States v. Kendall, 

, 1123 (10th Cir. 2021) (quotation omitted). As set out infra, when
 analyzing whether a given impoundment satisfies Sanders’s second prong, this court
 considers five non-exclusive factors.
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 failure to satisfy either criterion is sufficient to establish that the impoundment, and

 related inventory search, is unconstitutional. 

.

       Ramos asserts on appeal that the impoundment of his truck fails both

 requirements set out in Sanders. This court need not resolve whether the

 impoundment was consistent with FPD policy because, in any event, it is not

 supported by a reasonable, non-pretextual community-caretaking rationale. See

 United States v. Braxton, 

, 835 & n.3 (10th Cir. 2023) (resolving appeal

 solely on basis of Sanders’s second prong and emphasizing that both Sanders

 requirements must be satisfied for a community-caretaking impoundment to pass

 Fourth Amendment muster). Law enforcement must take “objectively reasonable”

 action in its community-caretaking role and must do so pursuant to a non-pretextual

 “subjective motivation.” Kendall, 14 F.4th at 1128; see generally United States v.

 Woodard, 

, 1155–59 (10th Cir. 2021). This court has identified “five

 non-exclusive factors” that are helpful to determining “whether an impoundment is

 justified by . . . a reasonable, non-pretextual community-caretaking rationale.”

 Venezia, 

. These factors include:

       (1) whether the vehicle is on public or private property; (2) if on private
       property, whether the property owner has been consulted; (3) whether
       an alternative to impoundment exists (especially another person capable
       of driving the vehicle); (4) whether the vehicle is implicated in a crime;
       and (5) whether the vehicle’s owner and/or driver have consented to the
       impoundment.




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 Sanders, 

. Although this court weighs the Sanders factors de novo,

 “we review the district court’s factual findings for clear error and view the evidence

 in the light most favorable to the government.” Woodard, 5 F.4th at 1155.

 B. Factual Background2

       At 11:51 p.m. on February 13, 2022, FPD Officer Puentes responded to a call

 about a public disturbance at the Hop & Sack Convenience Store. The Hop & Sack is

 located at the intersection of 14th Street and Gladstone Avenue; Gladstone Avenue is

 also State Highway 5. Puentes observed two men involved in a physical altercation in

 the parking lot. Puentes separated the combatants, recognizing both men, Ramos and

 Caleb Hogan, as his former classmates.3 As Puentes was pulling Ramos off to the

 side, Ramos turned and “lightly tapped” him on his right cheek. At that moment,

 Puentes placed Ramos under arrest for assault and battery on a police officer. Puentes

 placed Ramos in handcuffs and detained Ramos in the backseat of his patrol car.

 Puentes spoke with Hogan to get his side of the story. Puentes described Hogan as

 the victim because when Puentes arrived on the scene, he saw Hogan walk toward his

 vehicle as Ramos followed and then instigated the altercation.



       2
         The district court’s factual findings are set out in 202 numbered paragraphs
 spread over 35 pages. This court sets out only those facts relevant to the second part
 of the Sanders inquiry. In so doing, as discussed further below, we do not summarize
 the extensive findings regarding how Hop & Sack employees or management might
 have reacted if Puentes would have consulted them regarding their preferred
 disposition of Ramos’s truck. Woodard, 5 F.4th at 1155–56.
       3
         The Town of Frederick spans less than five square miles. Ramos had lived in
 Frederick most of his life and was well known to the people in Frederick.
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        FPD Assistant Chief Joe Rodriguez arrived on scene after Puentes detained

 Ramos and while Puentes was talking to Hogan. Puentes already had control of the

 scene and was visiting with witnesses when Rodriguez arrived. Rodriguez assisted

 Puentes with the investigation and consulted with Puentes about the charges and what

 to do that night.

        Once Puentes had Ramos in custody, he considered towing or impounding

 Ramos’s vehicle. Puentes described his decision as “protocol,” meaning “as soon as I

 arrest someone, and no one is around, I’ll impound their vehicle.” By 11:59 p.m.,

 Puentes decided he was going to impound the vehicle. His decision never changed

 and was based solely on the fact he had arrested Ramos.4

        Ramos was driving a tow truck, which was parked on the east side of the Hop

 & Sack. The Hop & Sack closes at midnight and it was past midnight when Puentes

 asked Ramos if he needed anything out of his truck. Ramos responded he had

 everything he needed and indicated the truck belonged to his mother. 5 When Puentes



        4
         To be clear, the vehicle was unrelated to the reason for Ramos’s arrest and
 was not needed for evidence.
        5
         Puentes knew Ramos’s mother, Lupe Juanes, since he was a child. Puentes
 acknowledged Juanes resided about three blocks from the Hop & Sack, a one-minute
 drive. Similarly, Rodriguez has known Juanes his entire life, as they both grew up in
 Frederick. Rodriguez also recognized Juanes lived near the Hop & Sack, about three
 blocks away. In contrast, the closest towing service was ten blocks away. Rodriguez
 conceded that if Juanes was home and awake, she could have arrived at the Hop &
 Sack quickly if the officers had called her. Indeed, Juanes testified that if the officer
 had called her to pick up the truck, she would have been at the Hop & Sack in three
 minutes.

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 asked if Juanes was home, Ramos shook his head yes. Ramos asked if he could call

 Juanes to come pick up the truck. Puentes did not answer yes or no to Ramos’s

 request because his plan was to first check the vehicle’s registration. Puentes never

 called Juanes, despite admitting he could have obtained her phone number from

 Ramos. Puentes asked Rodriguez whether he should let Juanes come get the truck.

 Rodriguez deferred to Puentes, but suggested they first see whether the vehicle

 registration came back to Juanes. Puentes and Rodriguez were considering releasing

 the vehicle to Juanes, but needed to see if the vehicle was registered to her because

 their “protocol” was “to release the vehicle to the registered owner.”6

       While the officers were discussing whether to release the vehicle to Juanes,

 Puentes discovered the truck had no license plate displayed. Rodriguez then advised

 Puentes to call a tow truck. Rodriguez recognized it was Puentes’s call whether to

 call a tow truck but indicated he was the supervisor on the scene, so he was advising

 Puentes. When he discovered no license plate was displayed on the truck, Puentes

 concluded it was irrelevant whether the vehicle was registered to Juanes because it

 could not be lawfully driven on the roadway without a license plate displayed and,

 without a license plate, the police could not confirm the vehicle’s registration.

 Further, Ramos was alone, Juanes was not at the scene, and Puentes suspected Ramos

 was intoxicated.


       6
         Puentes did not attempt to defend this “protocol” during the suppression
 hearing. Instead, he agreed that family members may be entrusted with a vehicle with
 the permission of the driver and that Ramos had asked him to release the truck to
 Juanes.
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       Puentes testified he would not leave the truck parked at the Hop & Sack

 overnight because the FPD would be liable if the vehicle were burglarized or

 vandalized while Ramos was in police custody. He also indicated the truck’s engine

 was still running at the time.7 Additionally, Puentes would not leave the truck parked

 at the Hop & Sack overnight because the store had a posted sign that prohibited

 parking to non-customers. Puentes believed Ramos was no longer a customer because

 it was fifteen minutes past midnight and the store closed at midnight.8 Although

 Puentes had never towed a vehicle from the Hop & Sack before, he believed it would

 be the store manager’s decision whether the truck could remain parked there

 overnight. Puentes had no information indicating Ramos had permission from the

 store manager to leave his vehicle overnight.

       After deciding to impound the truck, Puentes asked Rodriguez to transport

 Ramos to the jail so he could remain at the scene. As Ramos got into the back of

 Rodriguez’s patrol car, Puentes asked him about the missing license plate. Ramos

 indicated it was likely in the truck behind the seat but could also be in his other truck.


       7
          In its brief on appeal, the government repeatedly emphasizes this fact. It is,
 however, mentioned only one time in the district court’s order: it appears as a single
 sentence in the district court’s summary of Puentes’s testimony. Puentes did not
 testify this fact played a meaningful role in his decision to impound Ramos’s truck
 and it played no part in the district court’s analysis of the five Sanders factors. In any
 event, for those reasons set out infra in notes 13 and 22, the fact Ramos’s truck was
 running is of no significance to the resolution of this appeal.
       8
          Nevertheless, Puentes acknowledged Ramos purchased merchandise from the
 Hop & Sack and that his vehicle was lawfully parked on the east side of the store in a
 private parking lot, where it posed no impediment to traffic. Rodriguez likewise
 testified Ramos’s vehicle was parked in a legal parking spot on private property.
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  Puentes looked for the license plate in the truck, eventually finding it behind the

  passenger seat. Puentes prepared to run a check on the license plate, but he did not

  put the license plate back on the truck.9 Puentes testified he had never done that

  before or heard of a police officer doing so. He also indicated there could be liability

  issues if an officer were to damage the truck remounting the plate. Puentes called the

  license plate number into dispatch; the dispatcher advised that the license plate return

  came back to Ramos’s truck with an expiration date of November 30, 2022. The

  dispatcher also advised that the insurance was confirmed. The dispatcher did not

  indicate the vehicle was registered to anyone else besides Ramos.10

        After Rodriguez and Ramos left in the patrol vehicle for the jail, Puentes

  obtained a written statement from the store clerk, Jessica Ward. Puentes did not ask

  for Ward’s permission to tow Ramos’s truck. It was not on his mind, he did not think

  to ask, and, in his view, it would not have mattered because it would have been up to

  the store manager whether Ramos could leave his vehicle overnight. Rodriguez,



        9
           Although the record is not entirely clear, it appears Ramos was displaying the
  license plate on the rear window of the trunk, rather than on the rear bumper. Puentes
  testified a license plate must be mounted on the back bumper. Ramos’s vehicle had
  tinted glass, meaning the plate may not have been visible in the back window.
  Puentes noted it was dark that night and he did not place the license plate in the back
  window to determine whether it was visible.
        10
           Later that evening, after the truck had already been inventoried and released
  to the towing company, officers learned Ramos’s mother was one of the registered
  owners of the vehicle. Puentes testified this information would not have changed his
  impoundment decision because (1) the license plate was not properly attached to the
  vehicle and (2) he is required not to cancel a tow truck once one has been called
  because the tow trucks are on an on-call rotation.
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  likewise, did not consult with any Hop & Sack employee about leaving Ramos’s

  vehicle at the store overnight. Rather, he acted based on the store’s posted sign11 and

  his past experience in being called out to tow vehicles left in the Hop & Sack parking

  lot. He testified there have been a few times over the years when someone was

  arrested and the store personnel did not want the arrestee’s vehicle left on the

  property because they did not want to be responsible for damages. There had been

  other times when a vehicle was “abandoned” and the store clerk or manager did not

  know why the vehicle was left there or who it belonged to, so they called the police

  to come out and tow the abandoned vehicle. Rodriguez admitted he could not recall a

  specific instance or specific year in which he was called out to the Hop & Sack to

  tow a vehicle, or a specific employee with whom he spoke.12 He further indicated that

  there has “been a time or two” when an individual left their vehicle overnight with

  the Hop & Sack’s permission.

        Subsequently, Puentes inventoried the contents of the vehicle to ensure the

  FPD was not liable if something came up missing once the truck left their possession.

  Puentes estimated he conducted the inventory around 12:25 a.m. This was after he

  had called the towing company. While conducting the inventory search, Puentes

  found a loaded M-16 firearm behind the driver’s seat. Meanwhile, as he was being


        11
          A sign posted in the window of the Hop & Sack read as follows: “Customer
  Parking Only Violators Towed.”
        12
           In contrast to Rodriguez’s testimony, the Hop & Sack’s manager could not
  recall another vehicle being impounded from the Hop & Sack in her 22.5 years of
  working there.
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  booked into the jail, Ramos received a call on his cell phone. He told the caller to

  contact Juanes. Juanes arrived at the Hop & Sack after Puentes completed his

  inventory of the truck, but approximately fifteen minutes before the tow truck

  arrived. Puentes advised her that the tow truck was enroute and it was too late to

  cancel the tow.13

         The record contains significant detail about the Hop & Sack and surrounding

  neighborhood. Several businesses are located near the Hop & Sack, including the

  United Supermarket, the Tillman County Courthouse, Allsup’s Convenience Store,

  Security Finance, a radio station, a laundromat that closes at 10:00 p.m., and a hair

  salon or barbershop. The remainder of the streets are occupied by residential housing.

  The proximate businesses have “fairly decent” lighting at night. As to the Hop &

  Sack itself, Puentes testified he was familiar with its features and hours of operation.

  After the store closes for the night, a few lights are left on. The gas pumps are,

  however, always open to anyone purchasing gas with a credit card. Overall, except

  for the gas pumps, the area is not well lit at night. The officers testified, inter alia,

  that there was a significant amount of crime in the area, the vehicle was accessible to


         13
            According to Puentes, he had alternatives to towing until he learned the
  truck did not have a license plate displayed. He, nevertheless, agreed he could have
  called Juanes after he learned the license plate was validly registered to the truck, she
  could have put the license plate on the truck, and it would have then been legal to
  drive. Puentes further acknowledged that at no point before he called the tow truck
  did he ask Ramos if he would consent to leaving his truck at the store until someone
  could come pick it up. Finally, Puentes agreed that if the police had released the
  vehicle to Juanes, this would have relieved the police of any liability. Juanes
  testified, without contradiction, that she could have attached the license plate to the
  truck with the tools already present in the vehicle.
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  heavy foot traffic from citizens “who are usually up to no good and their intentions

  are probably not the best,” and the vehicle would be exposed in the parking lot of a

  closed convenience store located on a state highway.

  C. Procedural Background

        The district court began its analysis of Sanders’s second prong by concluding,

  as a prefatory matter, that the record lacked evidence Puentes’s actions were

  motivated by a desire “to find evidence of a crime” or to “get” Ramos. It then

  concluded the five Sanders factors, on balance, demonstrated the impoundment was

  justified by a reasonable, non-pretextual community-caretaking rationale. As to the

  first factor, the district court concluded it weighed in favor of impoundment despite it

  being private property. In reaching this conclusion, the district court ruled that the

  private nature of the property did not significantly decrease the risk that Ramos’s

  truck would be burgled or vandalized. Further, the district court weighed this factor

  in favor of impoundment because the property did not belong to Ramos. The district

  court also concluded the second Sanders consideration supported impoundment.

  Although Puentes did not consult the Hop & Sack’s manager or clerk, the district

  court ruled that Puentes’s knowledge of the sign posted in the store’s window tipped

  this factor in the prosecution’s favor. The district court also weighed the third

  Sanders factor in favor of impoundment. It did so on the following two bases: (1) the

  truck could not be legally driven by anyone because it did not have a license plate

  attached to its bumper; and (2) as the only patrol officer on duty that night in

  Frederick, it would not have been reasonable to obligate Puentes to wait to see if

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  someone would arrive to pick up the truck. Finally, as conceded by the government,

  the district court recognized that the fourth (implicated in a crime) and fifth (consent)

  factors weighed against impoundment. Nevertheless, on balance, the district court

  concluded the Sanders factors and lack of evidence of pretext supported the

  conclusion the impoundment of Ramos’s truck was a reasonable community-

  caretaking action.

                                       III. ANALYSIS

         This court reviews each of the Sanders factors individually before weighing

  them together, de novo, to determine whether the impoundment at issue was a

  reasonable exercise of community-caretaking. See Venezia, 

. Before

  doing so, however, we explain why the presence or absence of a pretextual motive on

  the part of Puentes or Rodriguez is not outcome determinative in this case.

         A. Pretext

         The district court appears to have given particularly significant weight to its

  finding that the officers did not impound Ramos’s truck as a pretext to “get” Ramos

  or as “an excuse to find evidence of a crime.” At the “outset,” the district court ruled

  “none of the Sanders’[s] factors point[] toward pretext on the part of the officers

  involved.” In support of this conclusion, the district court summarized the officers’

  interactions with Ramos as captured on the officers’ body cameras. Thereafter, the

  district court “turn[ed] to the individual factors, and weighing the factors, . . .

  conclude[d] that the impoundment was justified by a reasonable, non-pretextual

  community-caretaking rationale.”

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        Ramos vigorously contests the district court’s determination that the

  impoundment of his truck was not pretextual. He notes Puentes testified his protocol

  was to always impound an arrestee’s vehicle if no one else is around. Thus, according

  to Ramos, without regard to whether Puentes was specifically trying to target him or

  find evidence of specific unrelated criminality in his truck, the impoundment was

  more broadly pursuant to an arbitrary pretext for criminal investigation. See United

  States v. Pappas, 

 (10th Cir. 1984) (holding that the community-

  caretaking doctrine “cannot be used to justify the automatic inventory of every car

  upon the arrest of its owner”); see also Sanders, 796 F.3d at 1249–50 (holding that

  the second prong of its required analysis—the presence of a reasonable, non-

  pretextual community-caretaking rationale—protects against impoundment practices

  like “impounding all vehicles whose owners receive traffic citations”); cf. Arizona v.

  Gant, 

 (2009) (holding that the Fourth Amendment does not permit

  officers to search every vehicle incident to arrest). Likewise, Ramos argues, the

  officers’ decision not to explore the possibility of releasing the truck to Juanes was

  tainted by a protocol of only releasing vehicles to registered owners. The government

  does not defend the validity of this “protocol” on appeal. See supra n.6.

        Ultimately, this court need not resolve whether the district court erred in either

  its (1) focus on whether the officers had a pretextual motive directed specifically at

  Ramos, or (2) finding that the officers did not have a pretextual motivation to target

  Ramos or find evidence he was committing additional crimes. Application of the

  Sanders factors compels the conclusion that the impoundment was unreasonable even

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  if undertaken without any type of pretextual motive. To be valid under Sanders’s

  second prong, an impoundment must be both reasonable and non-pretextual. Venezia,

  

 (“It is unnecessary to decide whether the asserted community-

  caretaking rationale was also ‘pretextual.’ In fact, in this case, the evidence of pretext

  is scant. Yet, we held in Sanders that an asserted community-caretaking rationale

  must be both ‘reasonable’ and ‘non-pretextual.’”); see also Chavez, 

  (“The government must show that its [community-caretaking] interest outweighs the

  individual’s interest in being free from arbitrary governmental interference. This is

  because a person’s Fourth Amendment rights are not eviscerated simply because a

  police officer may be acting in a non-investigatory capacity for it is surely anomalous

  to say that the individual is fully protected by the Fourth Amendment only when the

  individual is suspected of criminal behavior.” (quotations, alterations, and citation

  omitted)).14


        14
            Our determination that this case can be fully resolved based on the
  reasonableness, or lack thereof, of the impoundment means there is no need to further
  elucidate or question the applicable standard of review. As noted above, this court
  has held that although the district court’s underlying factual findings are reviewed for
  clear error, the Sanders factors are weighed de novo. Woodard, 5 F.4th at 1155;
  Venezia, 

. Furthermore, it is clear the five Sanders factors bear on
  the existence of both pretext and reasonableness. Compare Woodard, 5 F.4th at
  1155–58 (concluding all five factors point toward pretext), and 

 at 1158–59 (“Not
  only does every factor point toward pretext, but other powerful evidence of pretext
  exists.”), with Venezia, 

 (holding that even absent evidence of
  pretext, the Sanders factors demonstrate the community-caretaking impoundment
  was unreasonable). Sanders’s focus on both reasonableness and pretext is unusual,
  but not without precedent. Compare Ashcroft v. al-Kidd, 

, 736 (2011)
  (“Fourth Amendment reasonableness is predominantly an objective inquiry. We ask
  whether the circumstances, viewed objectively, justify the challenged action. If so,
  that action was reasonable whatever the subjective intent motivating the relevant
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        B. Public or Private Property

        The district court found that Ramos’s “truck was lawfully parked on private

  property and not impeding traffic.” Thus, one could safely assume the district court

  concluded it must weigh this factor against the reasonableness of the impoundment.

  See Venezia, 

 (“The first Sanders factor weighs against

  impoundment because the vehicle was located on [private property]. Public safety

  and convenience are less likely to be at risk when the vehicle is located on private

  property as opposed to public property.”); see also Woodard, 5 F.4th at 1155.

  Instead, the district court concluded this factor weighed in favor of impoundment

  because, (1) although the Hop & Sack parking lot was private property, it was not

  Ramos’s private property; and (2) the private nature of the parking lot did not

  “eliminate all risk” to Ramos’s truck. The district court erred in concluding this

  factor weighed in favor of the reasonableness of the impoundment. Instead, this

  court’s binding precedent dictates the conclusion that this factor weighs against the

  reasonableness of the impoundment. Venezia, 

. Indeed, the private

  nature of the property is a factor weighing against impoundment “that is entitled to

  more than a little weight.” 

 (quotation omitted).




  officials.” (quotations, citations, and alteration omitted)), with 

 (identifying
  exceptions to the general rule “where actual motivations do matter” (quotation
  omitted)). Because we resolve this appeal exclusively on the basis of objective
  reasonableness, it is entirely proper to consider each factor individually and to weigh
  them together de novo.
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        We begin with the district court’s reliance on Ramos’s non-ownership of the

  Hop & Sack parking lot in weighing this factor in favor of the reasonableness of the

  impoundment. Notably, the government does not mention this conclusion in its brief

  or attempt to defend the district court’s reasoning. This court has weighed this factor

  against the reasonableness of a vehicle impoundment from private property, even

  when the private property did not belong to the vehicle owner. See Venezia, 

 (motel parking lot); Woodard, 5 F.4th at 1151, 1155 (convenience store

  parking lot); Sanders, 

 (Goodwill parking lot); Pappas, 

 (tavern parking lot). To be clear, then, this factor asks whether the

  impoundment was undertaken from private property, not from the vehicle owner’s

  property.15

        In asking this court to weigh Sanders’s first factor in favor of impoundment,

  the government urges us to adopt the district court’s view that the existence of a risk

  of vandalism bears on the public-versus-private-property question. The government’s

  request in this regard runs into several hurdles. First, this court has concluded


        15
            Because this court’s precedent makes clear the question whether the vehicle
  owner is also the private property owner plays no part in Sanders’s first factor, it is
  unnecessary to address whether such an approach would impermissibly collapse the
  first and second Sanders factors. See Venezia, 995 F.3d at 1178–79 (holding as
  follows regarding Sanders’s second factor: “As mentioned [in discussing Sanders’s
  first factor], public safety and convenience are less likely to be at risk when a vehicle
  is located on private property. That risk is particularly diminished when the private
  property owner does not object to the vehicle’s presence. For these reasons, we
  consider the property owner’s consent, even if the property owner does not own the
  vehicle.”); 

 (refusing to consider matters relevant to Sanders’s third and fifth
  factors in considering whether Sanders’s second factor weighed against
  impoundment).
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  concerns relating to possible vandalism, and the municipal liability that could flow

  therefrom, are properly considered at the third Sanders factor. Venezia, 

. Second, the only case cited by the government in support of its risk-based

  analysis of Sanders’s first factor, Chavez, 985 F.3d at 1244–45, does not bear the

  weight the government attempts to place on it. Chavez considered whether the seizure

  of an in-plain-sight firearm from a vehicle was a reasonable community-caretaking

  function.16 

 at 1243–44. It concluded firearm seizures were only “community-

  caretaking tasks” if necessary “to protect the public from the possibility that a

  [weapon] would fall into untrained or perhaps malicious hands.” 

  (quotation omitted). Necessarily noting the context-specific nature of this inquiry,

  and recognizing this court had approved some such in-plain-sight seizures from

  heavily trafficked, but private locales, Chavez nonetheless concluded the seizure at

  issue was unreasonable. 

 at 1243–45. In so holding, Chavez relied heavily on the

  remote nature of the private property and the availability of alternatives to seizure.

  

 at 1244–45. This court sees nothing in Chavez to support the notion that a risk of

  vandalism is a viable consideration in Sanders’s first factor. Third, there is no merit

  to the government’s assertion that just because this court has previously validated

  some community-caretaking impoundments from private property, the private nature

  of property must, sometimes, support such impoundments. Instead, a review of those



        16
           Notably, there is not a single reference to Sanders in Chavez. This is most
  likely because of the vast contextual differences between vehicle impoundments and
  seizures of in-plain-sight firearms.
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  cases makes clear that impoundment was reasonable in each despite the fact the

  subject vehicles were parked on private property, not because the private nature of

  the property weighed in favor of impoundment.17

        Ramos’s truck was legally parked in a private parking lot and was not

  obstructing traffic. Thus, the first Sanders factor weighs against the reasonableness of

  the impoundment and must be accorded “more than a little weight.” Venezia, 

 (quotation omitted).

        C. Consulting Property Owner

        Sanders’s second factor considers whether the owner of the private property

  upon which the vehicle is located was consulted about the potential impoundment.

  

; see also Venezia, 

 (“[P]ublic safety and

  convenience are less likely to be at risk when a vehicle is located on private property.

  That risk is particularly diminished when the private property owner does not object

  to the vehicle’s presence. For these reasons, we consider the property owner’s


        17
            See Trujillo, 993 F.3d at 869–70 (validating impoundment from roadside
  private property when the vehicle position amounted to a traffic hazard, no licensed
  passenger was present, the driver lacked registration documents, and 2:30 a.m. “was
  not a good time of day to look for help from friends”); see also id. at 872 (holding
  that the two-prong Sanders inquiry does not apply to impoundments when there is
  “threat to public safety or traffic”); United States v. Kornegay, 

, 715–16
  (10th Cir. 1989) (validating impoundment from private parking lot when the officers
  did not know where the vehicle was registered because it had a Missouri license plate
  temporarily fastened over a Louisiana plate and officers could not identify the driver-
  arrestee because the driver’s license he produced pictured someone else); United
  States v. Johnson, 

, 504–05 (10th Cir. 1984) (validating impoundment
  when, in response to a call at 2:30 a.m., officers found a “highly intoxicated” man
  sitting in his car outside a lounge with a .357 caliber magnum revolver in plain view
  on the passenger seat).
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  consent . . . .”). Here, as set out specifically in the district court’s order, “it is

  undisputed that the store owner, manager, and clerk were not consulted about towing

  or leaving [Ramos’s] truck” in the parking lot. Nevertheless, the district court

  concluded this factor weighed in favor of impoundment because of the late hour, the

  Hop & Sack’s midnight closing time, Puentes’s “knowledge” of Hop & Sack’s

  preferences as conveyed on the signage posted in the store’s front window. The

  district court erred in concluding this factor weighed in favor of the reasonableness of

  the impoundment of Ramos’s truck.

         This court finds no real relevance to the late hour or the Hop & Sack’s

  impending closure. These facts posed no impediment to Puentes’s ability to consult

  with the clerk on duty that evening. Puentes obtained from the clerk a written

  statement regarding the events surrounding Ramos’s assault on Hogan. Puentes did

  not consult with the clerk, or ask the clerk to consult with management or ownership,

  about Hop & Sack’s preferences. According to Puentes, “it was not on his mind, he

  did not think to ask.” Indeed, Puentes testified he believed consultation was

  unnecessary because impoundment was permitted by FPD policy. But see Sanders,

  

 (holding that compliance with standardized policy is necessary, but

  not sufficient, to render certain kinds of community-caretaking impoundments from

  private property reasonable for purposes of the Fourth Amendment). The record

  conclusively establishes consultation with the private property owner would not have

  been difficult, let alone impracticable. Accordingly, nothing about the circumstances



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  identified by the district court could make this factor weigh in favor of impoundment

  when no consultation occurred.

         On appeal, the government leans heavily into the district court’s conclusion

  that Puentes’s knowledge of the Hop & Sack’s preferences by reference to the store

  sign is sufficient to tilt this factor in its favor.18 It is certainly true that “the

  community-caretaking interest may permit officers to impound a vehicle that

  interferes with a private property owner’s use or enjoyment of their property.”

  Venezia, 

. As this court’s precedent makes clear, however, this is a

  decision left up to the private property owner, not the police. This court’s decision in

  Woodard holds that guesses about a property owner’s preferences, even if they turn

  out to be correct,19 are insufficient to carry this factor. Instead, this court “consider[s]

  whether the officers . . . consulted the property owner and learned of the property


         18
            To the extent the government’s brief could be read as advancing the notion
  Rodriguez’s knowledge of Hop & Sack’s preferences is relevant, this court rejects
  that assertion. See supra at 11–12 (summarizing Rodriguez’s testimony regarding his
  knowledge of Hop & Sack’s preferences). Although the record makes clear
  Rodriguez consulted with Puentes about some aspects of the impoundment decision,
  there is no evidence indicating the officers consulted on this question. Furthermore, it
  is clear Puentes made the decision to impound Ramos’s truck. Importantly, the
  district court found that “Puentes does not have any knowledge or understanding
  regarding the Hop & Sack’s owner’s or manager’s preferences regarding vehicles
  being left overnight. His only knowledge is what is posted on the store sign.”
  Consistent with all of this, there is no reference in the district court’s analysis of this
  factor to Rodriguez’s knowledge. Instead, the focus is exclusively on Puentes’s
  knowledge obtained via the sign.
         19
            Here, the record is entirely uncertain as to whether Puentes correctly
  predicted Hop & Sack’s preferences. Based on various formulations of the relevant
  facts, both the Hop & Sack clerk and manager offered various after-the-fact answers
  as to the store’s preferences.
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  owner’s preference, not whether the officers . . . correctly inferred the property

  owner’s preference.” Woodard, 5 F.4th at 1156; see also Venezia, 

  (explaining officers’ “fail[ure] to . . . consult . . . anyone who could speak for the

  owner” belies contention they “impounded . . . based on the . . . owner’s objection”).

  Because no such consultation occurred here, this factor weighs against the

  reasonableness of the impoundment of Ramos’s truck.20

         D. Alternatives to Impoundment

         “Whe[n] an alternative to impoundment does not threaten public safety or

  convenience, impoundment is less likely to be justified by a community-caretaking

  rationale.” Venezia, 

. The district court concluded no reasonable

  alternatives to impoundment existed because (1) Ramos’s truck could not have been

  legally driven on the roadway without the license plate attached, (2) Puentes was the

  only officer on patrol that night in Frederick, and (3) Puentes had no obligation to

  allow Ramos to make alternative arrangements. On the record before this court, and



         20
            Of course, context is key. As noted above, the entirety of Puentes’s
  understanding of Hop & Sack’s preferences flowed from the posted sign. If that sign
  reasonably conveyed a desire on the part of the Hop & Sack to have law enforcement
  remove from its parking lot vehicles the officers considered to be trespassing, the
  result could very well be different. Here, however, the sign merely stated as follows:
  “Customer Parking Only Violators Towed.” The government does not argue on
  appeal that this language could reasonably be read as an invitation to tow directed at
  the officers. Instead, it recognizes the sign’s “purpose” was to “disclaim liability”
  under Oklahoma’s trespass statute. Gov’t Response Br. at 36. The government’s
  concession is consistent with the only evidence in the record: the Hop & Sack
  manager testified the sign simply “meant the store was not responsible for a vehicle
  left in the parking lot, or if a vehicle was towed, the store would not pay the towing
  fee.”
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  given our decisions in Woodard and Venezia, we must conclude the district court

  erred in concluding Puentes had no reasonable alternative to impounding Ramos’s

  truck.

           On appeal, Ramos identifies several approaches Puentes could have taken as

  alternatives to impoundment. It is enough to resolve this case to conclude that neither

  the district court nor the government has identified a valid impediment to acceding to

  Ramos’s request to call Juanes to come and get the truck. See Woodard, 5 F.4th at

  1156 (“[T]he police had an alternative to impoundment: letting [the defendant] call

  someone to get the car. He had asked, and the police refused.”).

           In reaching a contrary conclusion, the district court first focused on the

  absence of the license plate from the truck’s bumper. Despite the government’s

  vigorous embrace of this asserted impediment to allowing Juanes to retrieve the

  truck, the record reveals reliance on this fact is unreasonable. The truck was validly

  licensed, registered, and insured. The plate was present in the vehicle. Ramos used

  the truck as a tower and the tools necessary for this trade were present in the truck.

  Puentes testified he had no concerns about Juanes’s ability to reattach the plate to the

  bumper and Juanes specifically testified she had the ability to do so. This case is,

  thus, entirely distinguishable from the facts in Kendall, 14 F.4th at 1123. The car in

  Kendall was stopped in the evening, had a faulty taillight, and was uninsured. Id. at

  1120, 1124. “That means that no one could have legally operated [the car at issue in

  Kendall] that night.” Id. at 1124. Here, on the other hand, the record leaves no doubt



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  that the condition rendering Ramos’s truck “unlawful” to operate could have been

  remedied in a few short minutes with the simple use of a wrench or screwdriver.

        Nor, on the facts of this case, can it reasonably be argued Puentes’s status as

  the only FPD officer on patrol rendered this alternative to impoundment unavailable.

  There are no facts in the record demonstrating Puentes would be tied up dealing with

  the truck for a prohibitive length of time if he would have allowed Juanes to retrieve

  the truck. Instead, the scant record facts, specifically including the facts found by the

  district court, demonstrate just the opposite. Both Puentes and Rodriguez were well-

  familiar with Ramos and Juanes. Frederick is a small town and Ramos was well-

  known. Puentes had known both Ramos and Juanes since he was a child; Rodriguez

  had known Juanes his entire life.21 Both officers knew Juanes lived in very close

  proximity to the Hop & Sack. Indeed, she lived several blocks closer to the Hop &

  Sack than the nearest tow truck operator. Ramos specifically told Puentes that Juanes

  was home when he asked that she be called to retrieve the truck. Juanes testified that

  she could have been at the Hop & Sack within three minutes if officers would have

  called her. In fact, although Puentes refused to honor Ramos’s request to call Juanes


        21
            These facts demonstrate why this court’s decision in Kornegay, 

, is not meaningfully applicable to this case in several important ways. The
  officers in Kornegay did not know where the defendant’s vehicle was registered
  because it had a Missouri license plate temporarily fastened over a Louisiana plate.
  

 This left officers with no way to determine who owned the car and whether the
  owner would retrieve the car. 

 Furthermore, the officers in Kornegay, could not
  identify the defendant because the driver’s license he produced pictured someone
  else. 

 Unlike in the case at hand, the facts in Kornegay left officers no option to
  either leave the vehicle in place or have an associate of the defendant take control of
  the car.
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  to take possession of the truck, Juanes learned on her own about the events at the

  store and arrived there approximately fifteen minutes before the tow truck arrived.

  Thus, there is nothing in the record to indicate it would have been more time

  consuming for Puentes to call Juanes as an alternative to impounding the truck. Nor

  can the government rely on any uncertainty that flows from the officers’ flat

  unwillingness to explore an alternative.22 The district court erred in doing just that in

  concluding this factor weighed in favor of the reasonableness of the impoundment.

         Finally, this court’s decision in Woodard compels the conclusion that the

  officers’ asserted lack of “duty” to allow a defendant to arrange alternatives to

  impoundment is legally irrelevant to the third Sanders factor. Woodard, 5 F.4th at

  1157 (“We express no opinion on whether the police have a duty to let someone else

  pick up a car when the driver is arrested. . . . It has nothing to do with the third

  pretext factor, which addresses the existence of alternatives to impoundment.

  Regardless of whether the police have a duty to let someone else pick up or move a

  car, the police either have alternatives or they don’t.”); id. (“Do the police have a

  duty to allow an arrestee to contact someone else to pick up or move the car from




         22
            Because the record evidence indicates the reasonable alternative of
  contacting Juanes would not have left the truck exposed to a risk of vandalism for
  any time, let alone a meaningful time period, this court need not consider the matter
  further. See Woodard, 5 F.4th at 1158 (“The car was in a high-crime area? It
  wouldn’t be for long if the police had let [the defendant] ask someone to pick up the
  car.”). The same is true as to the government’s after-the-fact briefing emphasis on the
  importance of Ramos’s leaving the keys in the truck with the ignition running outside
  the Hop & Sack.
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  property? The parties haven’t raised this question, and it has nothing to do with the

  third pretext factor.”). Id.

         None of the alleged impediments to contacting Juanes to come and pick up the

  truck, as Ramos specifically requested, identified by either the district court or the

  government on appeal reasonably render that alternative to impoundment

  unavailable. Because a reasonable alternative to impoundment existed, this factor

  weighs against the reasonableness of the impoundment.

         E. Implicated in a Crime

         It is uncontested that Ramos’s truck was not implicated in a crime and,

  therefore, “police had no need to preserve evidence by impounding the” vehicle.

  Woodard, 5 F.4th at 1158. That is, impounding the truck would not have provided

  evidence relating to the charges underlying his arrest—disturbing the peace, assault

  and battery on Hogan, or assault and battery on Puentes. Thus, the Fourth Sanders

  factor weighs against the reasonableness of the instant impoundment. Id.; see also

  Venezia, 

.

         F. Consent of Vehicle’s Owner/Driver

         It is also uncontested that Ramos did not consent to the impoundment of his

  truck. Accordingly, the district court concluded below, and the government concedes

  on appeal, that this factor weighs against the reasonableness of the community-

  caretaking-based impoundment of Ramos’s truck.




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        G. Weighing All Factors Together

        To one degree or another, each of the five Sanders factors weigh against the

  reasonableness of the community-caretaking-based impoundment of Ramos’s truck.

  That being the case, no weighing of the factors against each other is necessary. The

  impoundment was not reasonable and, thus, violated the Fourth Amendment.

                                  IV. CONCLUSION

        The order of the United States District Court for the Western District of

  Oklahoma denying Ramos’s suppression motion is hereby REVERSED. The matter

  is REMANDED to the district court for further proceedings consistent with this

  opinion. The government is hereby ORDERED TO SHOW CAUSE within three

  business days of the issuance of this opinion why the mandate should not issue

  forthwith.




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